Sermon for Sunday, July 29, 2012, Proper 12, 9 Pentecost


What is it that we know, and what is it that we don’t know? These readings make me wonder deeply about the things I claim to know and the things I claim not to know. We think we know what it would take to feed five thousand people then, six months wages. What would it take to feed five thousand people today? When we think of feeding five thousand people, do we look at it as if it is the state fair, do we consider feeding people in that way? Or do we look at our weddings, our blessing ceremonies, or other celebratory moments in our lives where we fed, 10, 50, 100 or 250 people?

So what is it that we know, and what is it that we do not know? I think it is an interesting question to ask ourselves, what is it we do not know? What are the moments where we have been surprised by our lack of knowledge, or where our knowledge was expanded by something new we had learned? What sorts of moments make us think to ourselves, or exclaim out loud, “I didn’t know that!”

I love it when Eliot or Naomi exclaims out loud, “I didn’t know that, Daddy!” Being six and eight years old must be like a constant expedition into the wilderness, discovery every day, always there are new questions, new ideas, more crazy than yesterdays. Questions that are not steeped in shame or embarrassment, because they don’t know something, but rather questions that are steeped in curiosity because they want to know more about the world, not to shape into something they can control, but because they want to be in relationship with the world.

There is a good reason God gave us the brains we have, the ability to reason as we do. God meant for us to wonder, God meant for us to question and God meant for us to never be solidified within our own knowledge. Parker Palmer in his book “To Know as we are known” explores the development of learning and knowledge over generations, and has some sharp critique about how we teach, and how we are asked to learn today. He talks about how we acquire knowledge in order to shape the world into our own image, to make the world look like how we want it to look like. Knowledge and information is given us so we can understand it in a particular way, with particular bias. Knowledge is passed on to learners to keep the learner distant from the world through objectivity. Or knowledge is passed down as stone tablets that can never change, as absolute in its nature, in a subjective way.

In our Gospel we see the objectivity of knowledge at work, the effort to keep people distant from the world and the keep the learner from being in relationship with the world. Phillip replies to Jesus’ test question with the statement, “It would take six months wages to feed all these people.” Phillip is trying to distance himself from the reality facing him, he is trying to cut himself off from the need of the world surrounding him. In his effort to distance himself from the clear need facing him, Phillip applies, what would seem to us clear reason and logic, a statement and a fact that frees him from having to help these people be fed. Phillip refuses to see the humanity, the divinity in his own relationship to Jesus and his own relationship to his own ministry with the people he is called to serve.

Simon Andrew fails to connect empathetically with the situation as well. He finds some bread and some fish and says, clearly, this is the limit, this is the amount we have, there is nothing we can do, it is a fact that we cannot help feed these people. Why did the disciples behave in this manner? Where were the questions? Where was the wonderment? They had already witnessed numerous miracles and numerous acts of Jesus, what kept them in the dark, in this moment? What kept them from seeing Jesus’ ability to feed all those people?

Why not ask instead, from a place of love, from a place of compassion about the need facing them, why not be aware of the power that Jesus possessed, and that even they possessed in that moment. Te writer of the Gospel of John believed they possessed this power, the question from Jesus is framed as a test after all. Why not say to Jesus, “We seem to be short on food Jesus, but we know that you are a wise and powerful person, how can we help feed these people, what do you have up your sleeve Jesus, what is it you are thinking of doing?” So when Jesus does feed these five thousand people, they aren’t surprised, they aren’t so shocked at this effort, as we shouldn’t be either.

Likewise we can see the challenge of subjectively looking at knowledge, now, I understand that these titles may just be totally wrong, so I am asking you to bear with me on this. But this idea of subjective knowledge, and maybe we should call it individualistic knowledge, this idea that what we know is absolute truth, that our concepts, our ideas, our own subjective facts can’t be changed and are 100 percent correct no matter the context, no matter the environment. This isolation of knowledge to fit exactly what we desire knowledge to say or to be is a great challenge in our intellectual and political world.

Paul’s letters often feed into these kinds of ideas, who is supposed to be silent in Church, women don’t say a word. Who is supposed to sleep with who, LGBT community, listen up. Paul Belk and I are constantly talking about how frustrating the Apostle Paul can be sometimes, not to mention how clearly conceited the man seems to be. But then he comes up with the words we heard today, the lesson we read today, and I begin to think, we might be wrong about Paul, Paul.

Paul is fighting against this very idea that the knowledge we possess, even the intuition we have is not the end all be all of our world, of our lives. But rather our knowledge is nothing compared to the wisdom of God, to the comprehension of Christ as our center. Paul writes, “I pray that you may have the power to comprehend, with all the saints, what is the breadth and length and height and depth and to know the love of Christ that surpasses all knowledge, so that you may be filled with all the fullness of God.”

What is it, that we know? Which brings me to a pause, because some of you may be thinking well, what IS it that I do know? What can I know, Mr. Vicar, what is it that I can comprehend? I guess what I am thinking about is asking the question, how do we use the knowledge that we have? Do we use it to divide and conquer? Do we use it to shape the world into our own image? Do we use it to puff ourselves up? How do we use knowledge? Parker Palmer, again, writes, “The minds we have were given to us for this purpose: to raise to awareness the communal nature of reality, to overcome separateness and alienation by a knowing that is loving, to reach out with intelligence to acknowledge and renew the bonds of life. We must allow love to inform the relations that our knowledge creates, with ourselves, with each other with the whole world.” So, again, it comes down to love, knowledge is not information, knowledge is love, and how we use knowledge is how we also love. We use our knowledge to discover anew how love is at work in the world. We use our knowledge to discover the core of our being, the depth, breadth, height, all those things that Paul said, we use our knowledge to be filled with all the fullness of God.

It is about relationship, it is about community, it is about loving one another and caring for one another from a place deeper than our own desire to shape the world into what we want, deeper than our own desires, our own wants, our own needs. We use our knowledge to discover the world more fully, and to discover God more presently than we have known before.

Knowledge is love, and the discovery of love, is knowledge. How can we be like Eliot and Naomi walking down the street on an evening asking those questions that drive all adults crazy, but part of us is always so grateful to hear, because it reminds us of the depth, breadth, height and length of the love that Christ has for us. Wonder, friends, wonder until our hearts are filled with the fullness of God, and in our wonder we will never ask how we feed the five thousand people standing before us, we will just feed them, because we know we can.

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